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Apparently Yale finally agreed to give back the Machu Picchu artifacts:
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132083890/yale-returns-machu-picchu-artifacts-to-peru

And of course Yale's museum doesn't want anyone to get the idea that this is anything other than accommodating Peruvian patriotism, because they might have to give something else back. It only took HOW many decades? All I can see in it is a long-term "MINE MINE MINE!" fit on the part of the Peabody and Yale scholars. Where were these people's mothers? Heck, where were the lawyer's mothers?!

I admit being the oldest in my family makes me possibly overestimate the importance of drilling the concept of "NOT YOURS. STILL NOT YOURS." into children at a young age, along with "No, the fact that you have it now does NOT make it yours!" but c'mon.

Date: 2010-12-16 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estela-dufrayse.livejournal.com
I hate to break it to you but the "mine, mine, mine" attitude pervades most museum systems. Look at the British Museum, full of Egyptian and Native Canadian art...
it gets worse when Curators have been in the same job, same institution since graduating from a BA program and they are now long past retirement age!

BWAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2010-12-16 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bytchearse.livejournal.com
You're asking where the ethics of the lawyers was? The ethics of YALE and their lawyers?

You funny...

Date: 2010-12-16 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stringlady.livejournal.com
The New York Public Library owns Winnie the Pooh and several of his friends. (Milne gave them to his American publisher, who donated them to the library.) They normally live in a nice climate controlled case in the Donnell Library (not sure where they are while it is being renovated.) I have visited them there.

Some years ago, there was a movement in Britain to get them back, as National Treasures, and a motion was introduced in Parliament to this end. There was some back and forthing with New York, and, in the end, Parliament declared that, as they seemed to be happy and healthy, they should stay where they are.

I didn't read this myself, but I have been told that the NYPL agreed that they are National Treasures of Britain, and agreed heartily that such should be in the nation of origin. And so, as soon as the Elgin Marbles go home, they'll be delighted to discuss Winnie the Pooh...



Different property rights standards

Date: 2010-12-16 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com
To those in their cuilture's mainstream with regard to property right customs, those customs are absolute. Usually, anyway.

But it's so aggravating that Yale is disingenuous about the property rights customs they adhere to.

Rules. They're levers, I'm telling you.

"Property is theft." -- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

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